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Turok 3 Mouse Input and other goodies
Nutshot:
So i tested out yesterday this thing and it does indeed works with some Mupen Frontends too.
But every single Frontend has a flaw that other don´t have and vice versa.
So i ended up using just the standalone Mupen64 with some Command Lines.
All in all, it´s running superb. The only thing yet i have problems are the controls themselfes.
Editing the "mupen64plus.cfg" here is necessary.
I also used this site as a reference:
http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Key_codes
So far i got "Escape" To Menu, the usual WASD to the C Buttons, Q and E are B and E, Space is "Jump".
Now here is what i don´t get.
Other keys such as "Left Ctrl" for "Control Pad Down" isn´t working.
I´m not really sure what is causing this. Left Ctrl should be "305". Yet it still wouldn´t work for that key. It just baffles me that i "somehow" got the other Keys working so far. I have no clue what is preventing this now. Other sites claim it should be "17" and not "305". Still wouldn´t work either.
Edit:
I got it to Shift (304) instead of Ctrl, which isn´t the way i want but at least it´s working.
Still doesn´t explain why Ctrl isn´t working.
Now does anybody have an idea how the Mouse Buttons are called?
It seems to be the only thing left and i could share my config for the controls.
Drahsid:
--- Quote from: Nutshot on February 12, 2020, 10:32:09 AM ---Editing the "mupen64plus.cfg" here is necessary.
I also used this site as a reference:
http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Key_codes
So far i got "Escape" To Menu, the usual WASD to the C Buttons, Q and E are B and E, Space is "Jump".
Now here is what i don´t get.
Other keys such as "Left Ctrl" for "Control Pad Down" isn´t working.
I´m not really sure what is causing this. Left Ctrl should be "305". Yet it still wouldn´t work for that key. It just baffles me that i "somehow" got the other Keys working so far. I have no clue what is preventing this now. Other sites claim it should be "17" and not "305". Still wouldn´t work either.
Edit:
I got it to Shift (304) instead of Ctrl, which isn´t the way i want but at least it´s working.
Still doesn´t explain why Ctrl isn´t working.
Now does anybody have an idea how the Mouse Buttons are called?
It seems to be the only thing left and i could share my config for the controls.
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Yes, I highly suggest everyone to share their input configs because it's not entirely seamless.
Not sure what does and doesn't work, but you might want to consider using device = -2 and name = "Keyboard"
Kil3r:
Is this program like the mouse input injector from Carnivorous (Goldeneye)? In other words, is it as close to native mouse support that we can get in Turok 3?
EDIT: Yes it is.
Firstly, I like it! Secondly, i'm having issues. The camera is always jiggling. Its almost as if the camera is fighting back against the mouse or perhaps its not super smooth. Furthermore, unrelated to this mouse script, my sound is always out of sync. Another thing. Is there anywhere to unbind the number keys from choosing save states. I like to use 1 and 2 as my change weapon buttons.
Here's some gameplay: https://youtu.be/a__BK2yWF5k
I believe this project deserves so much more attention. Its unlikely that we will get a port for T3 and I can imagine that this project must of took alot of time and effort.
My setup is this:
--- Quote ---Latest Mupen64Plus + Mupen64PlusQT launcher + GlideN64 + Input Plugin from this thread's OP(in the bug list).
DPad R = "mouse(2)"
DPad L = ""
DPad D = "key(306)"
DPad U = ""
Start = "key(8)"
Z Trig = "mouse(1)"
B Button = "key(50)"
A Button = "key(49)"
C Button R = "key(100)"
C Button L = "key(97)"
C Button D = "key(115)"
C Button U = "key(119)"
R Trig = "key(32)"
L Trig = "key(120)"
Mempak switch = "key(44)"
Rumblepak switch = "key(46)"
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--- Quote ---Controls:
Left Mouse: Fire
Right Mouse: Sniper Zoom
1: Change Weapon\A Button
2: Change Weapon\Activate Gadget\B button
Spacebar: Jump
Ctrl: Crouch
WASD: Move
Backspace: Pause
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Drahsid:
--- Quote from: Kil3r on April 13, 2020, 05:01:35 AM ---Secondly, i'm having issues. The camera is always jiggling. Its almost as if the camera is fighting back against the mouse or perhaps its not super smooth.
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I can't reproduce this myself. It is possibly related to the QT launcher, or perhaps you have the joystick set to the mouse in Mupens config (DONT DO THIS, the mouse input is not linked to the joystick)
--- Quote from: Kil3r on April 13, 2020, 05:01:35 AM ---Furthermore, unrelated to this mouse script, my sound is always out of sync.
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That's a Mupen issue, I think changing the sound-sync type might have better potential results.
--- Quote from: Kil3r on April 13, 2020, 05:01:35 AM ---Another thing. Is there anywhere to unbind the number keys from choosing save states. I like to use 1 and 2 as my change weapon buttons.
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afaik these are near the top of Mupen64plus.cfg
--- Quote from: Kil3r on April 13, 2020, 05:01:35 AM ---Here's some gameplay: https://youtu.be/a__BK2yWF5k
I believe this project deserves so much more attention. Its unlikely that we will get a port for T3 and I can imagine that this project must of took alot of time and effort.
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Thanks for the support. I dunno if I'll update this in particular, but I am doing a lot of reverse engineering on Turok 3 itself. In the future, I'm sure an official Turok 3 port is possible.
Kil3r:
--- Quote ---I can't reproduce this myself. It is possibly related to the QT launcher, or perhaps you have the joystick set to the mouse in Mupens config (DONT DO THIS, the mouse input is not linked to the joystick)
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Thanks! Your second point was the reason behind the issue. For anyone having the same issue, make sure "mouse = False" in mupen's cfg.
--- Quote ---That's a Mupen issue, I think changing the sound-sync type might have better potential results.
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Sounds good i'll be tinkering with that.
--- Quote ---afaik these are near the top of Mupen64plus.cfg
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I looked the the entire cfg and couldn't find it :(. It doesn't seem like you can customize that anywhere. For now I will map the buttons to Q and E. https://mupen64plus.org/wiki/index.php?title=Mupen64Plus_Core_Parameters
--- Quote ---Thanks for the support. I dunno if I'll update this in particular, but I am doing a lot of reverse engineering on Turok 3 itself. In the future, I'm sure an official Turok 3 port is possible.
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Are your intentions to create a port? As a undergrad CS major, being able to create a port using the resources you have is mindblowing. Your work deserves more support, especially on these forums. Infact, I think your script would bring more attention to the game and therefore would increase the speed of us getting a official port. Maybe https://www.youtube.com/user/Gggmanlives would be interested in visiting T3 again with the script as he talked about Goldeneye's mouse injector in his review. As someone who started Turok on PC, playing Turok 3 with a controller is just not an option haha. I'm sure other people feel the same way.
IIRC, Kaiser (Turok Remastered) had access to very little official code when he was first making his port. T3 unofficial port should be fairly possible right?
EDIT: Is there anyway to reduce the input lag? Furthermore, i've still had no luck with solving the audio delay. What is your audio setup?
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