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Posted by: Paradise12314
« on: October 08, 2021, 03:06:13 PM »

I think you are both right about an older version of the Engine. Could be that acclaim didn't want an outside company to have access to the newest updated version.

It's a shame really. But when you think, the console versions were bugged as well. Maybe not in graphics, but in the gameplay. It was a rush job for acclaim right from the start. If the console versions were more polished, the PC version could have been great.

For the Shaders, found something else.

Waterfalls use SelfIllum.fx
The current way they work, the alpha is not blended correctly.


Adding an extra line for blending,


I've also disabled Culling on the Shader in the first post. Looking in specific directions, some tree leaves and random objects were disappearing.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/9iiqdwz86ygrt15/SelfIllum.zip/file
https://www.mediafire.com/file/6t7fotxu1vg1gjx/Diffuse_Updated.zip/file
Posted by: Dinomite
« on: October 08, 2021, 06:24:01 AM »

Quote from: Paradise12314 on October 07, 2021, 04:52:38 PM
As far as I can imagine, it is the Xbox engine that was ported to PC. After all the xbox is a cut down PC.
Correct, but they used a different build than what we got on store shelves.
Quote from: Paradise12314 on October 07, 2021, 04:52:38 PM
But I think because the Xbox GPU was custom made, there had to be new hlsl shaders created for PC.
Not necessarily, but there is some truth to this.
Quote from: Paradise12314 on October 07, 2021, 04:52:38 PM
But, I don't think Super Happy Fun Fun had any idea about PC graphics. And I certainly believe they never created those Shaders.
If they were capable of programming Shaders, the port wouldn't have been in such a mess in the first place.
They've created plenty of games prior to porting Turok: Evolution. I'm surprised they did as "good" a job as they did, given the state of the game.
Quote from: Paradise12314 on October 07, 2021, 04:52:38 PM
I assume all the effects are in the engine waiting, it just needs someone with graphics know-how to create working Shaders. (That's not me btw  ;D)
I will keeping poking the shaders, moving them around to see what I can find :)
I don't know about that. Only one way to find out, though. :)
Quote from: Paradise12314 on October 07, 2021, 04:52:38 PM
A good thing, if you minimize the game, make some changes and save, the game loads those changes.

50/50, it depends on what you're trying to load.  :feather:
Posted by: Paradise12314
« on: October 07, 2021, 04:52:38 PM »

As far as I can imagine, it is the Xbox engine that was ported to PC. After all the xbox is a cut down PC.

But I think because the Xbox GPU was custom made, there had to be new hlsl shaders created for PC.

But, I don't think Super Happy Fun Fun had any idea about PC graphics. And I certainly believe they never created those Shaders.

If they were capable of programming Shaders, the port wouldn't have been in such a mess in the first place.

I assume all the effects are in the engine waiting, it just needs someone with graphics know-how to create working Shaders. (That's not me btw  ;D)

I will keeping poking the shaders, moving them around to see what I can find :)

A good thing, if you minimize the game, make some changes and save, the game loads those changes.
Posted by: Nutshot
« on: October 07, 2021, 04:25:19 PM »

Wow, this is cool.
Yeah, i think i remember now that on PC it looked always so different from what i remember from playing it on console long ago.
Turns out it was the shaders all along. Can it be that the PC Version is based on a more earlier Version of the Game? Or maybe that they forgot to include the shaders properly?
I mean wasn´t Evolution one of the last Games for Acclaim? Maybe they production of it was more troubled then we know.
Posted by: Dinomite
« on: October 07, 2021, 01:35:44 AM »

How fun. :) Thanks for sharing this with us.
Posted by: Paradise12314
« on: October 06, 2021, 04:57:56 PM »

Hi everyone, my first post on this forum

I decided to have a mess around with the Shader files, and something interesting.

All the Brightly lit objects use the file Diffuse.fx

So a little swapping around I managed to fix it.

Before


After


Here is the Shader. Make a backup of the shader file in /Data/Effects first.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/o9mroq4ngnk1hat/Diffuse.zip/file

I will keep plugging away at the Shaders to see what works. I will update this Thread as I find things.
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