Well it would be funny if you or Iggy smacked each other with the Warclub. I just keep feeling like it was going to happen in the video there lol. So who is who I mean who is top and bottom in that? But of course you want to send the least amount of data. So your saying that creating the way to actually send/render it correctly is the specific issue? I do wish I could help there but I don't think I will be much help on that myself. Its been interesting seeing this much so far though even know we took a trip to the ghetto it was fun hehe

Video of the "Ghetto match" should be up soon.

Well it would be funny if you or Iggy smacked each other with the Warclub. I just keep feeling like it was going to happen in the video there lol. So who is who I mean who is top and bottom in that? But of course you want to send the least amount of data. So your saying that creating the way to actually send/render it correctly is the specific issue? I do wish I could help there but I don't think I will be much help on that myself. Its been interesting seeing this much so far though even know we took a trip to the ghetto it was fun hehe

That is good progress indeed. I actually wouldn't even care if it has split screen at least till the solution came up for it which I hope would eventually come. But I wouldn't mind it personally. If the co op mode worked 2 player split screen co op would be bad ass though. That is awesome there can the players hurt each other already to? xD

I don't have much experience with d3d either, but in opengl I use glClear, and with 3D games usually graphics programmers set it to also clear the depth buffer and stencil buffer. Sometimes those two buffers are even combined. I doubt this game does anything with the stencil buffer though.

This is the kind of thing I've missed in the past, even when I've written it myself. Then worn myself out for a week trying to figure out why something isn't rendering properly. It's kind of interesting to me that that's a problem that exists in the PC version at all. That's the kind of thing I'd think they'd notice and fix early on in the development of the multiplayer.

To clarify I don't have experience with OpenGL or d3d I've never really done 3D programming I know enough to rip functions and hook areas to do basic rendering of text and menus which other people wrote handlers for but not enough to write my own stuff from scratch.

Well I'm thinking that it got screwed up some how when they were porting to PC because the entire rendering loop for the multiplayer mode is different from the single player,
Multiplayer was never even intended to be functional on PC in-fact there's literally no way to bind controls to the 2nd player.

In theory I could make it happen and add split-screen support by basically updating the memory of the player but that's besides what we're talking about..

So yeah, I had to use PIX to find it and I watched the depth buffer get cleared out here's an example

- depth buffer before clear.
- depth buffer after clear.

It warms my heart to see T:E multiplayer on a PC. I'm excited to be able to play with you all in the future, if possible. Thank you Permanull for all of your work.

You'll laugh at me if I tell you what the rendering issue is but I don't do d3d stuff much.

So I wasn't aware Clear() could affect the depth buffer and the game has a sub routine to render the weapon when it does this in MP it seems to clear the depth buffer before drawing the weapon well when you switch weapons the rendering loop draws the player then draws the weapon causing the player's depth data to be wiped.

I bring you some of the most important progress of all...

I've completely disabled the 2nd player via an actual DLL now.
And... I've overcome the biggest hurdle which would've held me back with this project....

I FIXED THE RENDERING ISSUE!

The time for news about the progress of this modification to be announced was definitely worth the wait. Keep at it!